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  • Jan. 30th, 2009 at 2:39 AM
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We've updated our post about the February 7th casting call in Philadelphia with specific information as to the time and place, and several local volunteers are helping to organize a protest. If you're interested in joining in, please do so -- the stronger a front we present, the harder it will be for Paramount Pictures to continue to ignore us.

Even if you can't make it to the casting call, you can still raise awareness of this issue in style! One of our supporters, the talented and generous [info]glockgal, has set up an online store where you can buy shirts, postcards and buttons to broadcast your support of this cause in person. All items are being sold at cost, and none of us will profit from these sales in any way. If you want to make your own shirt or poster, you can download the highres versions of the images here.

While we ultimately decided against handling any money ourselves, we encourage you to donate to the East West Players. From their website: "As the nation’s premier Asian American theatre organization, East West Players produces outstanding works and educational programs that give voice to the Asian Pacific American experience." One of their primary goals is "increased opportunities for Asian Pacific Islander artists on stage and in other media," which is very closely tied to what we're trying to do here. In addition to this, many of the Asian American actors who provided voices for Avatar: The Last Airbender were associated with this group -- including Mako, sadly deceased, who was the voice of Uncle Iroh.

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[info]upstart_crow wrote:
Jan. 30th, 2009 08:03 am (UTC)
Oh, right on! I especially like that glockgal (and you?) picked a service for these shirts that includes both sustainable AND union-made options. You guys are great!
[info]aang_aint_white wrote:
Jan. 30th, 2009 08:06 am (UTC)
We only wish the base prices were cheaper! Though at least you get a nice shirt for what you're paying!

And yes, [info]glockgal did an absolutely fantastic job. <3
[info]nilecrocodile wrote:
Jan. 30th, 2009 10:36 am (UTC)
I love the t-shirt designs, they're pretty, they're bold, they get the message across. Rock on [info]glockgal. <3
(Anonymous) wrote:
Jan. 30th, 2009 12:28 pm (UTC)
Lets Get the News involved!
Here are the three top news stations in the area of the open casting call. You make the decision if we should all call or just one person the day before the open call?

CBS 3
1555 Hamilton Street
Philadelphia, PA 19130

215-233-3333 (Tips Only)
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ABC
Action News 6
Action News Tip Line: 1-866-NEWS-SIX (1-866-639-7749)

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FOX News
1-800-220-6397 (News tip line)
[info]avalonestel wrote:
Jan. 30th, 2009 02:43 pm (UTC)
You guys are so awesome I can't even say it. :D
[info]chaobunny wrote:
Jan. 30th, 2009 08:01 pm (UTC)
You guys are incredible. I really hope that this movement succeeds. Because as much as I'm upset, I really do want to see an Avatar movie. A real Avatar movie, not whitepower!Avatar. I can't tell you how proud I am to be a part of this fandom. I wish I could do more to help. I'm going to keep sending emails to local newspapers with information about the campaign, but so far I haven't received any responses.

I've decided that if this doesn't work out, some day I want to organize a fanmade film. I'm white (and certainly no actor xD), but I could help with visual effects and video editing. Of course, that's just a crazy idea, and one that should probably wait until I'm in college. But I'm determined to do that if this doesn't succeed.
(Anonymous) wrote:
Jan. 30th, 2009 09:44 pm (UTC)
I LOVE that idea!
(Anonymous) wrote:
Jan. 31st, 2009 06:28 am (UTC)
"... including Mako, sadly deceased, who was the voice of Uncle Iroh."

Until a White guy replaced his role, and nothing substantially registered in protest, either on the internet, or through mainstream press outlets.
[info]aang_aint_white wrote:
Jan. 31st, 2009 06:39 am (UTC)
Mako died unexpectedly while the show was still in production and had to be replaced on very short notice.

We have previously responded to comments regarding the ethnicity of voice actors, but will restate those comments here for your benefit.

You're lending importance to the voice actor that isn't warranted. An animated character is formed by many people -- the voice actor is just one part of what creates their identity, working in collaboration with storyboard artists, designers and animators. Women, for example, play preteen male characters all of the time.

However, in live action films like this one, the actor has to be the character to a much greater degree, and essentially becomes that character to the audience. Daniel Radcliffe IS Harry Potter in a way that Dante Basco will never be Zuko and Zach Tyler Eisen will never be Aang. Bart Simpson is played by a middle-aged woman named Nancy Cartwright, but her face is certainly not what comes to mind when people think of that character.

In regards to the Asian American acting community, a few specific points:

- The television voice acting community is incredibly small, and mostly separate from the larger acting community. There are actually a disproportionate number of actors and actresses of color in that community, many of which are extremely prolific.

- Consider that Prince Zuko, arguably the second-most important character in the show next to Aang, was voiced by Dante Basco -- a Filipino American actor. He's had a very busy voice acting career, including the title character in "Jake Long: American Dragon." Our issue is that Asian American actors aren't allowed to have the spotlight in live action films like this one. Actors like Dante Basco can only be the "star" when we can't see their faces.
(Anonymous) wrote:
Jan. 31st, 2009 07:10 am (UTC)
Jesse is continuing to make a jackass of himself...
Check this interview:
http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1603949/story.jhtml

"Jesse McCartney will be joining "Twilight" star Jackson Rathbone in the upcoming M. Night Shyamalan-helmed flick "The Last Airbender." McCartney — who plays Prince Zucko — assured fans of the writer/director who feel he may not be right for the part that Shyamalan has it all figured out"

"Although he is still learning all about the popular cartoon that first made its debut in Asia before gaining popularity in America, it was his little brother who was already a fan when McCartney signed on to the flick. "I heard about the series from my little brother who's an avid 'Avatar' fan,"

Get you're facts straight Jesse!!!!!!!!!!
[info]aang_aint_white wrote:
Jan. 31st, 2009 07:18 am (UTC)
Re: Jesse is continuing to make a jackass of himself...
Oh yes. Yes we have seen. We particularly enjoy the implication that only "hardcore fans" would object to the idea of a white actor in yellowface and the overall issue of Hollywood whitewashing. It trivializes the issue in a way that's quite frankly insulting.

It's sad -- we really do want to leave the actors out of this as much as possible, as they aren't responsible for the casting policy and shouldn't be punished for Paramount's bad decisions. But it's incredibly unfortunate 1) that they continue to make ridiculous and borderline offensive statements in interviews and 2) that Paramount is leaving them hanging out to dry in this way in the first place. Two actors and a casting director are the closest we've gotten to an official statement -- WHY, when things are deteriorating in this way?

Time will tell, perhaps.

Edited at 2009-01-31 07:20 am (UTC)
Re: Jesse is continuing to make a jackass of himself... - (Anonymous) - Feb. 1st, 2009 02:46 am (UTC) Expand
No need to kill Jesse... - (Anonymous) - Feb. 1st, 2009 04:52 am (UTC) Expand
Re: No need to kill Jesse... - (Anonymous) - Feb. 1st, 2009 05:35 am (UTC) Expand
(Anonymous) wrote:
Feb. 1st, 2009 09:10 pm (UTC)
For those who think it's too late...
...it's only fair to remind you all of an old Hollywood saying that seems to have been forgotten as of late.

'Anyone can be replaced.'

Even if it's on short notice; if something/someone doesn't work out (actors, directors, etc) then they can be easily replaced with someone else. Geneviève Bujold was replaced by Kate Mulgrew for Star Trek: Voyager after the pilot due to the demands of acting for a TV show.

So anyone who's thinking it's too late... remember that.
(Anonymous) wrote:
Feb. 2nd, 2009 06:28 am (UTC)
Some Improvement???
Has our prayers been answered?

Zuko??

http://www.mnightfans.com/index.php?subaction=showcomments&id=1233550002&archive=&start_from=&ucat=11&

Is this Aang?

http://www.mnightfans.com/avatar/
[info]bluegreenpen wrote:
Feb. 2nd, 2009 07:43 am (UTC)
I just found an article saying that Jesse McCartney has been replaced by Dev Patel, and that Suki is being acted by a girl called Jessica Andres: http://agualimon.wordpress.com/2009/02/02/atlas-friky-diky-cast-replacing-jessemc-suki-appears/
[info]imnotasquirrel wrote:
Feb. 2nd, 2009 03:11 pm (UTC)
If this is true, I will be happy, even though I don't think Zuko (or the Fire Nation in general) is India-based. I am a bit worried though that he will be the designated token Asian character, and people will then point to Dev and say, "Okay, you got your Asian, can you please shut up now?"

But still...at least the cast won't be whitey mcwhite anymore. :) I'll take my kicks where I can get 'em.
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(Anonymous) wrote:
Feb. 2nd, 2009 12:01 pm (UTC)
Rasicim in HollyWood
Looks like the second Twilight film New Moon is also dealing with what the Last Airbender is. Take a look at this little snip it from an article. So sad!

"Native Americans are outraged over what they hold as deceptions in and around the production of the Hollywood film series “Twilight.”

With the commercial success of Twilight, Hollywood is abuzz with agents molding, fitting, and pushing their celebrity actors to pass as Native Americans."
[info]bluegreenpen wrote:
Feb. 3rd, 2009 05:38 pm (UTC)
Re: Rasicim in HollyWood
I loathe Twilight the series, but I still think it's another huge mess up on part of the casting directors for those movies.
(Anonymous) wrote:
Feb. 2nd, 2009 06:14 pm (UTC)
New Zuko
Look at the director
http://www.mnightfans.com/gallery/sixthsense_bts/SS_bts020

and then the new Zuko
http://photos.dev-patel.net/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=0&pos=4

Interesting that this is the directors favorite character and then who he cast as Zuko..very interesting!
[info]opal_skies wrote:
Feb. 4th, 2009 04:43 am (UTC)
Re: New Zuko
I think it's more interesting that he's cast a man of Indian descent of Zuko if the rumors of his wanting to play Iroh are true. :-/
[info]kogas_chick wrote:
Feb. 2nd, 2009 06:37 pm (UTC)
Has anybody seen M Nights new actor for Zuko? McCartney has turned down the role and in an attempt to satisfy us he is choosing Dev Patel as Zuko? Dev Patel is a very dark skinned indian i believe is his nationality? Zuko has much paler skin and could be more japanese/korean/chinese before looking Indian. What are peoples thoughts on this? I myself am not satisfied with this choice.
(Anonymous) wrote:
Feb. 2nd, 2009 08:55 pm (UTC)
on the same page with u there.

i think he wanted to play his uncle
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(Anonymous) wrote:
Feb. 2nd, 2009 07:47 pm (UTC)
My thoughts are THIS is my Zuko and always will be :O)
http://www.graffitiverite.com/dante.JPG

PS yes, they should have gone a different route
[info]avatar_mom wrote:
Feb. 2nd, 2009 09:34 pm (UTC)
I am sooo confused. M. Night is quoted as saying, "Then I saw 'Slumdog Millionaire,' and the kid just grew in my eyes."

He seems more suited to play Sokka (for those of you who watch Skins you'll understand what I mean)Is it just me or does it seem that M. Night doesn't "get" Avatar...or someone doesn't "get" Avatar.

Many are saying they are happy that Zuko is not being played by Jesse, but my confidence is still low. Some argue, "Dev is Asian!", which is true. But if you are going to switch gears and recast this very IMPORTANT character wouldn't it be better to try to hit it more on the mark?

At least we know how well this actor can act...
[info]chaobunny wrote:
Feb. 2nd, 2009 10:17 pm (UTC)
I don't know. For the first time in weeks, we've actually received good news about the movie, so I'm going to try and feel optimistic for at least a little while. If one actor was changed, who's to say the rest won't be? I think we've got some sort of a change here, after all.
(Anonymous) wrote:
Feb. 2nd, 2009 10:09 pm (UTC)
Protest idea.
Have a protest sign that says something like,

'We won't accept 'tokens'.

Even though I'm sure Dev is a fine actor (judging by 'Slumdog Millionair's' success), it still doesn't behoove well for the production to cast just one Asian into a lead, and an important one at that.
(Anonymous) wrote:
Feb. 2nd, 2009 11:28 pm (UTC)
Re: Protest idea.
I don't think M. Night got Patel over McCartney because he's being racially sensitive. Slumdog is one of the most buzzed about movies out right now, and he's most likely being pragmatic in choosing an actor whose star is very much on the rise over one who--inside the acting sphere--hasn't even gotten his off the launch pad yet.
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[info]avalonestel wrote:
Feb. 4th, 2009 03:40 pm (UTC)
Have you guys seen this: http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2009/02/dev-patel-repla.html?xid=partner-cnn-todayslatest-%27Last+Airbender%27%3A+Dev+Patel%27s+in

Just thought everyone should know. I wonder, do we have anything to do with it?
[info]xneoninja wrote:
Feb. 5th, 2009 08:22 am (UTC)
>.>
Continuing the conversation about the token Asian characters.

The sad thing is

Sokka is white and Suki is Asian.
Goku is white?! Chi Chi is Asian..

The white guy always gets the Asian girl.
Everybody should watch Wong Fu Production's "Yellow Fever."
My guess before Jesse McCartney's recasting was that Mai was going to be Asian as well. But now that's going to be possibly different.
(Anonymous) wrote:
Feb. 5th, 2009 10:01 am (UTC)
Re: >.>
Sorry for the double post.

But I just really got to thinking. Many more movies depict the main white hero getting the Asian girl.

James Bond (kinda whatever because no girl is safe from James)
The Last Samurai (the wife of the samurai he kills falls in love with him)
The Forbidden Kingdom(sparrow and jason.. kinda)

Besides that, I started thinking more on the bulls eye. I don't know if these were brought up yet, but I know that you guys somehow realize these things in your mind. Some of which are fairly obvious.

Here it is, Mike and Bryan went to Asia to study everything for the show. ATLA has a lot of turning points that come from history itself.

The Earth king Being so divine that he could not speak to commoners was an example of the Japanese Government in which the voice of the emperor was so pure he could not speak to a commoner. The Emperor under Meiji Constitution did not deal with anything related to government issues, but he did appoint the Prime Minister to handle such things. Just as Long Feng was to the Earth King.

Long Feng kept secrets from The Earth King. Aha a connection indeed. Watch The Last Samurai for the history that it is based on (not for Tom Cruise) and you will see what I mean. (read the summary if you want to speed it up a bit.)

The Great Wall of Ba Sing Se of course is referring to the The Great Wall of China. So it could be assumed the Earth Kingdom is like China. China has been renowned for the wall and its defense. Sounds like Ba Sing Se being a famous defense against invaders. Even Iroh the Dragon of the West had problems with the wall.

Now Japan off the coast of China had tried to conquer China as well. During the events of World War II they began a full invasion. Eventually they conquered the capital Nanjing.

>.> The Fire Nation eventually conquers Ba Sing Se, the CAPITAL of the Earth Kingdom. Hmm.. (B.T.W. the Earth Kingdom emblem looks like a Chinese coin)

Another thing to add, the fighting between the nations and division reminds me of China. Especially how before all the different languages and writing and culture was split up. At the end the whole country united under one ruler and became one.

I was especially reminded of this during the scene Aang is talking to either Gyatso or The Guru. How they showed the different nations in their respective colors but talked about a united world where the nations colors all turned to the same color.

But WAIT! There's still more. The story is heavily based on the fire nation taking over the world. The world based on mainly Asian cultures. This happened in history when Communism began to rise to power. The Vietnam War took place and Vietnam lost. Eventually this would continue to push down toward Cambodia. It began shortly after the fall of Saigon, the capital of Vietnam. This began another battle against the Khmer Rouge.

A symbol of Cambodia is of course Angkor Wat. A temple/monastery of Cambodia. Now look at a picture of a Cambodian monk and Aang. Note the strong orange color, that majority of Asian monks use, but is it a coincidence that the name Aang is similar to ANGkor Wat?

So is the world of avatar really "made up?" This shows how important it is to have the right cast. In extremes this film could represent the Asian country as a whole because of its deep cultural roots. It definitely should be thought about every time someone says that the characters have no race because the world of Avatar doesn't exist, unless you want to deny my culture and forefathers considering I am living flesh and example of my country.

sorry, Didn't know where else to post this but I wanted those that are protesting to get a good feel of the history. =] I hope it helps.
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(Anonymous) wrote:
Feb. 5th, 2009 10:01 pm (UTC)
Mad Love
Hey guys, i really respect what you guys are doing and will spread the word about your campaign. I live in Los Angeles and know one of the East West Players club, they are a historical Asian American theater troop and you donation will be headed in the right donation. I will keep watching for updates just wanted to wish you guys good luck on the 7th. The fact that one of the cast members was changed means you are having some success. Keep fighting, you are doing an amazing job. Just think by speaking up you are costing them millions in PR they can never recover.
[info]sidepocket_pro wrote:
Feb. 8th, 2009 04:16 am (UTC)
New York City Comic Con -- Day One Success!
For the most part! I had no idea that so few showed up to the protest. I am very much convinced they did that on purpose because so many con's are happening on the 7th including Comic Con. However, all this now told me is what I did was very important. For a while, I thought I was doing too much! XD

People who got fliers:

During my Takashi Miike signing, I gave him one of the fliers. He will have his translator read it later to him but he reacted positively to the hand out. He was so surprised of my Japanese!

Likewise, the two leads of Platinum Games for Madworld also got two fliers and seemed grateful. I am sorry, I only remember one name, the project director .

The big hit was at the Asian America panel. Lots of people showed up and reacted very positively to it, including people who attended of all types. Turns out one guy knows us really well and blogged about the casting, Keith Chow. I have his contact info. If you like to thank him, message me for it since I am worried if I post it publicly he will get harassed.

I recorded the end part to his panel were he spoke about the Avatar casting. I will upload it soon. He took many many hand outs because he is going to give them to all of his friends, co-workers and the other Asian American artist and the con. So less work for me!

I sadly could not give Milo his in person, but I manage to use my contact info and charm to find one of his aids, who put the pamphlet into Milo's memo area so he can read it later.

Finally, I put posters around the con and distribute more fliers. Many people were attracted to them, especially around the escalator. Two were torn down sadly. All the handouts went fast and people kept them. Very positive reactions.

The only bad news is that there was suppose to be some kind of Avatar fan meeting today, but I missed it I guess. I dunno where it was and the person I gave my card to did not call me! ;,;

Tomorrow I will do this again, especially with the kids coming in. I hope to meet Keith again since he is hosting another panel about Multicultural Facades in the media.

Tired but excited, I hope I did ok.
[info]caterfree10 wrote:
Feb. 8th, 2009 04:48 am (UTC)
Re: New York City Comic Con -- Day One Success!
That is absolutely wonderful to hear about! It is great to know you were able to spread the word as much as you did, especially hitting people who could spread the word even farther! And I can't wait to see the video about the Avatar casting. I'm sure that's going to be very interesting. *nod nod*

Though I didn't hear anything about an Avatar panel of any kind. I watch a number of people on dA who are at NYCC, so I would've thought I'd have heard. Not to mention nothing on ASN. Then again, they've yet to have said anything on the casting, even from a neutral perspective on their news, so I don't know.
[info]sidepocket_pro wrote:
Feb. 8th, 2009 02:53 pm (UTC)
[info]sidepocket_pro wrote:
Feb. 9th, 2009 02:40 am (UTC)
New York City Comic Con -- Day Two Success!
Wow, today was WAAAAAAAY more successful than yesterday. I sadly did not have time to put up posters but I did place and hand out fliers to enthusiastic people. It did not help that I ran out of personal business cards so I was using them as such by writing my contact info in the blank spaces.

I could not get Daniel Dae Kim one in person, but like with Milo, I found one of his aids and gave it to her, and I saw it give it to him. He got it, looked at it, folded it and put it in his pocket. I would like to call that one success.

I hand out so many but the two that I now names of 100% that are fully behind us are Perry Moore (writer of the best selling book "Hero") and Misako Rocks! (A very awesome manga-ken) There was also a major woman from DC that was friends with Perry Moore but I sadly cannot remember her name. :(

Anyhow, I have pictures of them for you guys to see. It was a fun con. I hope this gets the word out.



A woman who works at the higher ups at DC Comics. I really have to find out what her name was! Sorry!



Perry Moore, author of the book Hero and producer on The Chronicles of Narnia: Lion, Witch, Yadda Yadda Yadda. http://www.perrymoorestories.com/content/index.asp



The very awesome, talented, lovely, charming and sexy manga-ken artist Misako Rocks! www.misakorocks.com
[info]caterfree10 wrote:
Feb. 9th, 2009 03:20 am (UTC)
Re: New York City Comic Con -- Day Two Success!
WHOO~! More success~! 8D It's so great that you were able to do so much at NYCC! I think everyone here is really appreciative of your effort. Here's hoping we can have people get to other Comicons as Comicon makes its way to San Diego!
(Anonymous) wrote:
Feb. 9th, 2009 06:06 am (UTC)
flyer
Man I love that flyer....



-cabbageguy-
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